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Old Jun 01, 2007, 06:39 PM // 18:39   #41
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All a thread like this tells you is whether or not you've found a good set of builds for a particular mission or been with a group that has.

For anything in PvE, once you figure out at least one way to beat a mission or boss then it's just a question of whether or not you make mistakes. For instance, getting masters on Rhilon Refuge is very difficult if you don't do something to change the earth damage to another type of damage and/or interrupt the Drought. You can get your whole party wiped in seconds.

However, if you bring the right skillsets, it's one of the easiest/quickest masters in the game to get.

I hero/hench most things personally, and there's only a handful of missions that cause problems. These are usually timed missions and/or require fighting on 2 fronts simultaneously, but most of those can still be mastered with H&H.

Eternal Grove is a pain without humans, but fairly easy with folks who know what they are doing.

Same with THK - and several other missions, imho.
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Old Jun 01, 2007, 06:48 PM // 18:48   #42
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With respect to hard mode:

Prophecies: Thirsty River
Factions: Eternal Grove (also the hardest mission in the game)
Nightfall: Maddock Crevice
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Old Jun 01, 2007, 08:29 PM // 20:29   #43
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Proph: they were all too easy. Except those times Rurik went on those suicide runs. Can't remember which mission that was

Factions: finding a good group to kill Shiro. Once you have one it is easy as pie though

Nightfall: h/h ing Nightfall, I have to say that Jennur's Horde was the biggest pain. Mainly because of the bonus. It is just long to do alone....
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Old Jun 01, 2007, 09:06 PM // 21:06   #44
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It all depends if you do the bonus or not because the eternal grove for example is freaking easy, but the masters is though.


And it also depends of what class and if you have heroes or henchies. THK is one of the easiest tyria missions if you have heroes, but when you have 7 henchies its really hard.

and why people are telling that gyala hatchery is though? You just clear the map, come back to the beggining to take the turtles and go to the end with, there should be just a few monsters.

Prophecies: THK(if you dont have heroes), Abbadon mouth (bonus=impossible)
Factions: they're all easy to complete but very hard to do masters. nahpui took me 23 minutes and I had 3 SF.
Nightfall: sebelkeh and GoM
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Old Jun 01, 2007, 09:07 PM // 21:07   #45
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Prophecies: Thunderhead Keep...easy now...but hard initially.

Factions: Boreas Seabed...only because it's killed two of my Indomitable Survivors so far...other than that I'd say the only one I found hard to begin with was Aborstone.

Nightfall: Gates of Madness...this is the only mission I still have trouble with.

in Normal Mode...I've only tried a couple of missions in hard mode...nothing too difficult yet.

I've gotten protector for all continents...
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Old Jun 01, 2007, 09:12 PM // 21:12   #46
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I assume these are for HM? If so...

Prophecies, Aurora Glade
Factions, Eternal Grove
Nightfall, Dzagonur Bastion i guess, none were really hard.

Arborstone isn't really hard, just incredibly frustrating.
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Old Jun 01, 2007, 11:54 PM // 23:54   #47
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Prophecies: Aurora Glade
Factions: Eternal Grove
Nightfall: Gate of Madness
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Old Jun 02, 2007, 01:57 AM // 01:57   #48
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It all depends if you do the bonus or not because the eternal grove for example is freaking easy, but the masters is though.
Why would you do Eternal Grove in hard mode without intending to get Masters?

If one treesinger dies, you resign and try again.
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Old Jun 02, 2007, 04:49 AM // 04:49   #49
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prophecy....none....did them all with henchies and had no problems and now with heros its a cake walk. (though with bad pugs aurora and dunes can be a pain).
factions....still hate the palace trying to get the bonus. (though napuli seems to be a bonus that eludes my characters for a while)
nightfall....gate of madness is just toooo long to do and then die running to the shrine and start all over again. ugh.
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Old Jun 02, 2007, 05:17 AM // 05:17   #50
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normal reward:
proph - ring of fire
factions - raisu palace
nightfall - gate of madness

bonus/masters:
proph - aurora glade? is that the one with the demagogue?
factions - eternal grove
nightfall - jenuur's horde

overall hardest thing: probably jenuur's horde masters reward.

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Old Jun 02, 2007, 05:47 AM // 05:47   #51
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Factions: finding a good group to kill Shiro. Once you have one it is easy as pie though
celestial skills make it easy. just find a E/Me with Echo and Arcane Echo. Get Shiro to stand still while the E/Me casts 6 Celestial Storms on him (gotta catch the summoned shiroken in the first 3 to get a morale boost and recharge).

Barring that, a SV Necro with Awaken the Blood destroys Shiro.

For first time through the game, I found these to be the hardest:
Prophecies: Abaddon's Mouth. Team ran into Willa the Unpleasant and Cairn the Destroyer. Took us two hours to pull them apart and finally kill them since it was the first time through for pretty much the entire team. It's a year later and I still remember the exact place and which bosses they were . ..
Factions: Eternal Grove for Master's
Nightfall: Didn't really find any mission hard since by this point of playing GW, I was just using henchies and/or heroes for everything already.
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Old Jun 02, 2007, 06:07 AM // 06:07   #52
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Prophecies: THK
Factions : Aborstones (the knockdown and noobs often ruins it)
Nightfall: Dzagonur bastion (stupid mobs)
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Old Jun 02, 2007, 06:13 AM // 06:13   #53
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Over all? Naphui Quarter. Mainly because my friend and I had to do it 15 times before we cleared it >.< It was the embodiment of pain on this earth.
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Old Jun 02, 2007, 07:44 AM // 07:44   #54
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The Foundry of Failed Creations in DOA beats them all.

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Old Jun 02, 2007, 07:55 AM // 07:55   #55
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The Foundry of Failed Creations in DOA beats them all.
heh ya I'm completely ignoring elite missions for the sake of this thread, lol... figure, out of the ones that go towards titles...
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Old Jun 02, 2007, 07:59 AM // 07:59   #56
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Prophecies - Nothing really... I hate doing Icy Caves of Sorrow (really! I've never done this mission!)
Factions - I just hate Gyala Hatchery, but because Im Kurzick now (one of the reasons changing sides was... this mission), I think that it'll be Vizunah Square. I remember I had 2 survivors to go through this mission and I almost got heart attack... Everytime I get stupid Rt/W and W/Rt friends, that dont attack and think that rezzing is for henches, people at level 5 from Prophecies or something worse...
Nightfall - Well, only two missions were really HARD. Jennur's Horde or Gate of Madness. But since I made to Hard Mode, I guess my vote goes to Jennur's... It's just freakin' hard that I never made it.
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Old Jun 02, 2007, 08:30 AM // 08:30   #57
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Hmm. Vizunah always was an easy one for me, just bring two high lvl MM's and masters guaranteed. All sorts of spirit spamming ritu's also rock in this one. Gyala is the hardest Factions mission i think.

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Old Jun 02, 2007, 11:55 AM // 11:55   #58
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Prophs: I actually found elona reach quite hard, namely due to there always being one leeroy in the team and afk players
Factions; Tannaki Temple probably (found arborstone easy, got masters with no probs first time )
Nightfall: Not completed yet (due to not being able to access Vabbi until last week due to graphics drive crashing upon entry )

I think THK isn't really that hard, i find it incredibly fun and pretty easy to do with a decent PUG
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Old Jun 02, 2007, 12:00 PM // 12:00   #59
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Prophecies: Nolani Academy (hate the bonus, when i'm doing it at low level), Riverside Province bonus, Sanctum Cay (thank god for runners!), Thirsty River.

All missions after that were easy for me
did ThK first try with a PUG, really easy
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Old Jun 02, 2007, 12:02 PM // 12:02   #60
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Hmm. Vizunah always was an easy one for me, just bring two high lvl MM's and masters guaranteed. All sorts of spirit spamming ritu's also rock in this one. Gyala is the hardest Factions mission i think.
I actually found Gyala to be super easy (though boring in the end) with a group of me, a guildie, and a couple PUG people... none of which were healers (had the 2 monk heroes for healing)... long as you take the back road, its super easy masters.
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